Kathleen Pagan of Endlessly Elated
LH: Kathleen, tell us a little about yourself.
KP: Hola! So, I'm Kathleen. I own Endlessly Elated where I'm a content creator, Youtuber, blogger, and influencer. I teach people how to fashionably dress themselves, their homes, and their parties! Life's one big event so you must show up and celebrate! Live an Endlessly Elated life!
LH: That sounds like the coolest job ever. You have fun for a living!
Is this your full-time job?
KP: So, it isn't my full-time job. But it will be, one day! Currently, I am a finance director by day and an entertaining stylist by night (a name I came up with to describe myself).
LH: Yes, one day! Numbers are scary. You're basically a superhero!
KP: Ha-Ha! Being a numbers' gal definitely helps!
LH: So you have two hustles, which is amazing! Do you ever find it hard to balance both hustles?
KP: Hard is an understatement! My day job isn't a nine to five. It's more of a nine to whenever I'm done, so coming home after working a very long day and then beginning what I like to call, "my real job" is at times extremely difficult! I can't even lie! But I can't stress enough how much I love what I do, so my passion always outweighs everything else! It's all about the Hustle!!
LH: That's such a great way to look at it! I totally agree, it is ALL about the Hustle!
Speaking of hustle, what would you say is your ultimate dream hustle? In a perfect world, what would you do on a day to day basis as a "job," if you will?
KP: My ultimate dream (and I'll say it out loud because I'm such a believer that whatever you put out there and fuel will ultimately become reality) is to go full time with my business, to live creating content (whether that's on YouTube or my blog), partnering up with big name brands that I've admired since I was a young girl, and hosting (like as in TV hosting) All in all, becoming the face of my own brand!
LH: I'm all about speaking things into the universe. What would you say is the most rewarding part about both of your hustles (finance and your personal brand).
KP: Well, finance has given me a foundation. A business mentality that I am forever grateful for. I get to manage my business because of the fundamentals I've learned being in corporate America. My brand, well that's just everything! Can you tell? Nothing is as rewarding as being authentically yourself (sometimes better than others), but no matter what, being you is always rewarding. There's something to be said about doing what you love. I can't say that at times it doesn't feel like working (cause I work my butt off), but it's so rewarding to achieve just about anything that you are fully passionate about.
LH: Nothing is better than being you and doing all of the things that you love. What would you say are the most challenging parts of both of your hustles?
KP: Honestly?! I might get in trouble for saying this, yikes! Let's hope no one at work reads this. But with my day job, it's challenging to go into work and "pretend." I say this because I'm the type of person that goes into work and does whatever needs to get done--most people can't imagine I have another JOB. I can't say I slack. At times, I actually feel defeated if I give more focus to finance than I do my personal brand. Can you relate? But ultimately, when I'm there I give 100% and when I'm here, I give 100%. And it is TOUGH to always be working at 100%. Honestly, impossible! But I know many before me have done it, so it's what gets me through the challenges!
LH: That's such a transparent answer, and I can relate as well. If everything in you equals to 100% and you gave that 100% to your nine to five job, it's often hard to go home and give something else your 100% when you're at zero. (I can subtract!)
KP: Of course, you can! But yes, it's so hard! But when you want something, you have to work hard to get it. I never want something that comes easy…Okay, maybe I do, sometimes! Hehe!
LH: As a regular nine to fiver, and also a freelancer, what are some ways you recharge? Also what are some ways you overcome that feeling of defeat or feeling like you're stretching yourself too thin?
KP: Okay, so this is going to sound so cliché, and I promise I don't mean it to be! But the truth is, that if I can disconnect from my emails/phone and have my family and friends over for cocktails or dinner or both, there's something about that interaction, the feeling I get, that truly relaxes me! I really do host constantly, and make LITERALLY any excuse to do so--ask any of my friends! If I'm being stretched too thin (normally caused by me, myself, and I) or start feeling defeated, I listen to someone's inspirational story. Is that weird?!
LH: That's so awesome! So you sound like you're a fantastic hostess and you love what you do. Is this something you've always wanted to do?
KP: I don't know if I knew that being a "hostess" is always what I wanted to do, but my mom can tell you that I use to play "throwing parties" --what I use to call it, don't ask! And basically I would push my mom's bar cart around, pretending to serve drinks. Oh, and don't even get me started on begging my mom to allow me to cook. It was always a battle! But as I've gotten older, I think the passion really lies within how it makes people feel. What celebrations really mean. We only have one life! So, to celebrate even the most trivial things is awesome. There's something powerful to be said when you want to celebrate people, especially those around you. It's the best feeling!
LH: It's always so great to hear about passions being linked to the way people were as children. How do you deal with the pressures of planning an event, dealing with clients, etc? Do you ever psych yourself out or do you have a work 'ritual' or 'mantra' you live by so that everything sails smoothly?
KP: So, I actually don't take on clients (for event planning) anymore--only really for family and friends. I started my business that way and quickly thereafter realized it wasn't exactly the route I wanted to go. So, I reworked my business plan to focus more on teaching people how to do it. And really focusing on why you should do it! But I do deal with business clients, companies that want to partner up, companies that want me to sponsor their products, and so on. So I don't know that I have a ritual or mantra, but certainly will say organization (for me, anyways) is everything! If I start losing a hold on things, I start to feel crazed and anxious. I need to feel like I know what's going on, have a plan, and maybe even a plan B and C. So even, if things go crazy I still felt that going into it, I was prepared. Oh and a big YES to psyching myself out. I'm definitely my worst critic, but I'm definitely working on it!
LH: Build the perfect burger. Ready? GO!
KP: So exciting! Okay, so for me, a juicy patty is a must (a blend of pork and beef is ideal), American cheese, a fried egg with a runny yolk, some lettuce, tomatoes, onions, and ketchup. YUM!
Oh and a little bacon can't hurt! Can you tell I love to eat?!
LH: Let's look back for a second, growing up. When you think of your mom's hustle, what are some of the first thoughts that come to mind?
KP: My mom's hustle…She's the best! I'm truly obsessed with her! I would say that the first thing that comes to mind is mom first. Her mom game is always at 100%! She quit her job to raise us and often times I want to ask her, "if she could go back [and change her decision] would she?" She used to be a teacher (fits her to perfection) but would that be what she would choose? You know what, I'm going to ask her!*
LH: Please keep us posted on the answer!
KP: She just read the text! Let's see what she says!--she's probably reading this like, "what is my daughter up to now?"
LH: Wine or cocktails?
KP: Wine! Riesling! But I don't discriminate on Champagne! Okay, who am I kidding. I don't discriminate on anything!
LH: Who are some lady hustlers that inspire you?
KP: Okay, so I'll start by saying my best friends! We are a group of girls that literally have known each other for over 20 years, and they each in their own way inspire me. My best friend Christine, is much like me…A go getter. She travels the world and works harder than anyone I know. She is also the most thoughtful person, not sure when she has time to remember the smallest of things, but she does! My best friends Patty, Sorlene, and Laura are full-time mothers, wives, professionals and the list goes on. I mean how they do it all is beyond me! My mom (stating the obvious), for more reasons than I can actually write…But really, I'm inspired by women in general. Even when I don't know someone, if I see them grow or do things, I'm always cheering them on! To be honest, just the other day I was telling my friend Cindy about you and how fabulous you are!
LH: Aww! thank you! That's so amazing and it's a great reminder to surround yourself with people who call you higher and are killin' it just as much as you are.
KP: That's right!!
LH: Speaking of surrounding yourself with amazing people. I know that you are happily married (I should throw that in there because when they see your picture…you know)! What role does your husband play in your hustle?
KP: He's my rock! My husband is my photographer, my video editor, my business coach, and the list goes on and on. But more than that, he's my confidant, the person I can tell my smallest or biggest ideas to and not be afraid of judgment. I always tell people I married out of my league (he's going to read this and be like huh?! Really! Haha!) I try to give him all the credit he deserves!
LH: That's so beautiful! I am so happy for you guys!!
LH: Favorite Candy?
KP: I'm actually not a sweets person! Totally would rather have something savory over sweet any day!
LH: Current favorite song?
KP: I'm totally into the new Selena Gomez song. "Good for You," I think it's called. No judgment! Haha!
LH: What advice do you have for your fellow Lady Hustlers?
KP: This is the best question! I have so much to say! Go for it, don't ever give up on your dream. When the going gets tough, that's just the universe's way of saying you are almost there. Nothing comes easy and everything worth it is hard work. Follow your intuition. It's your best teacher! And never, ever, ever, ever, ever let anyone tell you different! FOLLOW YOUR DREAMS!
KP: Oh one more, HUSTLE, HUSTLE, HUSTLE!